About this episode

In this episode, Jeff is joined by the New York Times bestselling author, Amanda Ripley. They discuss strategies for managing conflict in educational leadership, especially during politically chaotic times. Jeff learns about Amanda’s journey, her valuable insights on handling conflict, and how leaders can adapt to changing dynamics. This episode is perfect for educators, school leaders, and anyone looking to foster meaningful conflict resolution.


Amanda Ripley is a featured speaker at the Cognia Leadership Circle Summit on January 13-15, 2025.

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Amanda Ripley

Amanda Ripley is a New York Times bestselling author, an investigative journalist, and host of the Slate podcast How To! She’s spent her career trying to make sense of complicated human mysteries, from how people get out of dysfunctional conflicts to how countries educate virtually all their kids to think for themselves. Amanda’s most recent book is High Conflict: Why We Get Trapped and How We Get Out, published by Simon & Schuster in 2021.  Her previous books include The Unthinkable: Who Survives When Disaster Strikes—and Why, which was published in 15 countries and turned into a PBS documentary, and The Smartest Kids in the World—and How They Got That Way, New York Times bestseller which was also turned into a documentary film.

About Jeff Rose, Senior Vice President Leadership Development at Cognia
Forward-thinking executive leader with over 20 years of education experience (3X Superintendent, Curriculum Director, Principal, & Classroom Teacher), primed to support leaders in their pursuit of solving the most complicated educational problems of practice.